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My experience with Gypsy was that it was never that much
fun. As time went on I got closer to some of the people but it never
was any fun. My agent had gotten me a six month contract for the
show which was unheard of at the time because usually they want
you for a year. But he had gotten me more money because they were
desperate, I guess. After about six months I pulled a muscle and
I was out for a week. Then when I was ready to come back they said ‘Oh,
why don’t you just take another week’, so I took another
week. It was good to have some time off but when I came back, they
said ‘We’re firing you because you’ve been absent
too long.’ (laughs) I think what happened was they got my
understudy to do the part for a lot less money. It was tough to
be fired like that but I was tired of it anyway. Still, that’s
not the ending you would like...
After I got fired from Gypsy I had a brief time when
I didn’t have any work and then in late 1961 I auditioned
for the Tennessee Williams play, Night of the Iguana. Bette
Davis was starring in it and I tried out for the part of Charlotte
Goodall---which was a very emotional role---and I got the part.
It was really, really hard, though, as the character goes on stage
hysterical and comes off even more hysterical---all in the space
of three minutes! A lot of times Tennessee Williams’ words
help an actor get to where she needs to be but they didn’t
in this case...I just had to do it all on my own, eight times a
week, for, like, eleven months. Believe me, that’s hard duty
and it was extremely draining.
I must say, a lot of my experiences on Broadway were not all that
great. A lot of people are crazy, you know, and at that point in
my life I was a little crazy, too. I think if I did it again, with
what I know now and with the life experiences I’ve had, I
would know how to counteract some of that craziness, but I didn’t
at the time. I mean, I had no clue. Out-of-town with Night
of the Iguana was a disaster. Patricia Roe, a co-star in the
play, and I were getting all the good reviews for a while, and I’m
afraid it caused some whiplash. I remember Paula Prentiss, who was
the understudy of Bette Davis (and also the producer’s wife),
coming up to me one night outside the theater, screaming, “You
are fucking up the whole show! Nobody can hear you.” Which
was an odd thing to say since Pat Roe and I were getting really
good reviews. But you know, I guess Paula needed somebody to dump
on that night, and since she couldn’t dump on Bette Davis, I got
it! (laughs)
Each night during the play’s initial run in Chicago, I would
sit and prepare my lines right next to where I would have to go
on stage. I remember one evening Bette Davis walking by me and giving
me a very dirty look. Well, the next thing you know, she’s
talking to the stage manager who then comes over to tell me that
I couldn’t prepare my scenes there anymore and that from then
on I would have to go down four flights of stairs to the basement
to wait for my cue and then run up just in time to go on stage.
The whole situation was very upsetting to me but actually it only
helped me.You know, Charlotte Goodall was hysterical and so was
Lane Bradbury from this kind of lousy treatment! (laughs)
Anyway, Night of the Iguana finally opened on Broadway
and we were a big hit. Even though I had a contract to be with the
show for a year, near the end of my run I was offered a role in
Edward Albee’s play Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf?,
so I left the show one month early so I could do it. However, since
I was still emotionally exhausted from Night of the Iguana I
decided to coast a little bit in the first rehearsals for Virginia
Woolf, and the producers wound up firing me. They replaced
me with Bonnie Bedelia. It was a big disappointment but you know,
it was all my own doing. I was on an emotional edge from Night
of the Iguana and I just allowed my life to negatively effect
my work. That was a hard lesson to learn.
It was at The Actor’s Studio that I first met Lou Antonio.
In fact, I think my third scene at the Studio was with him. The
work was called “Kean” and he played Edmond Kean and
I played a young actress who was coming to see him backstage to
get his autograph. My character was in love with him and it was
a great, fun scene to play.. Lou and I started going out and after
a while I moved out of my apartment and into his little red house
on Route 9 in West Nyack, New York. My parents were mortified...they
thought I was ruining my life! But it felt right to me, you know?
I didn’t feel I was doing anything wrong.
After another play [Marathon ’33] Lou and I decided
to spend a summer in L.A. to see what that was all about. Because
of all my work on Broadway I got a part on Mr. Novak, with
James Fransiscus. It was a teenage role and from there I went right
into a guest part on The Fugitive. I didn’t have
a very big part and I remember trying to cram so many different
emotions into my scenes that I came across very overblown and theatrical.
Back then they would let you watch the dailies as you went along
so that you could see your work. You could critique what you had
done and you really learned about your mannerisms. Well, I learned
that I had a lot of mannerisms! And when I got them all
going at once, boy, watch out because it just looked yucky.
I absolutely hated my performance on The Fugitive...it
was horrible. I did enjoy working with David Janssen, though. I
think he had some inner demons he was struggling with but it certainly
never effected his work, or our work together. He was a very giving
actor and a nice man.
Around 1967, I started doing a lot of TV. Iron Horse,
I think, was one of the first westerns I did. Dale Robertson was
the star.That was a show, unfortunately, that I felt they just
wanted to rocket through and finish as quickly as possible. I
remember one time we did the first half of a scene where my hair
was piled up in a bun and I had to appear from behind a clothesline
and then when we came back and did the second half I came out from behind
the clothesline and my hair was hanging down! I mean, they didn’t even
catch it. That was, you know, it was just one of those things that was fun
to do but it didn’t have the feeling of commitment behind the scenes
like some of the other shows did.
I had a recurring role (as a rowdy little hillbilly named Merry
Florene) on Gunsmoke in 1968 and 69, which I absolutely
loved! My affection for that character must have come from my childhood
when I was fascinated by the “poor white trash” children
who lived in a shack on a dirt road near the top of our driveway.
My sister Lynda and I would wait at the end of our driveway for
our hauling group to pick us up to go to school, while the poor
kids would wait at the end of their dirt road for the bus to come
get them and bring them to Liberty, which was a school that our
mother would not allow us to go to. We were not allowed to talk
to the poor kids that lived near us, so we always looked at each
other across the big stretch of pavement that separated us. I’ll
never forget it---they seemed to always wear these dresses that
were faded blue and patched. I always imagined that the floors of
their shack were made of dirt, just like the road they lived on.
My father would take them a turkey on Thanksgiving and Christmas.
I used to just sit and wonder about them. Wonder what their lives
were like. So that’s my earliest memory of being curious about
someone that didn’t have what I had. I’ve always had
a fantasy about Cinderella and the poorer world---you know, what
being poor really meant. And I think I always wanted to
bring something that meant a lot to people that didn’t have a
lot.
One of my strongest memories of Gunsmoke is how much
Milburn Stone (Doc) and Ken Curtis (Festus) made
each other laugh all the time. I recall one scene between the three
of us. Milburn broke Ken up and then Ken broke Milburn up and it
kept happening until I broke up, too! It quickly became a real laugh
fest and we just couldn’t get through the scene. It got
worse and worse (or funnier and funnier) until finally the scene
was shot in one or two line segments so we all could get through
it without laughing.
My only negative memory of the show was that the makeup man was
a golfer and I always remember him kind of slapping my makeup on
real fast so he could cut out of work early to go play golf. So,
I would always have to go back and touch up my makeup a little bit.
But the Gunsmoke scripts were wonderful and working on
that set with all those fine people was a joy. I loved the character
of Merry Florene. There I was getting to ride horses and be in covered
wagons and all the stuff I practiced in the woods and on my front
lawn when I was a child. I was being given the opportunity to gallop
off on horseback with a sack of stolen money and do all kinds of
neat things...I just loved it.
Alias Smith and Jones, however, was another one of those
things that felt like it was just about turning on the camera and
letting it roll. It was surface TV but I remember seeing myself
on the show later on and thinking, ‘Oh, you are just as surface
as they are.’ Here I was, you know, in my own cocky way, putting
down everybody else on the set and then when I saw myself I thought, ‘Well,
you just cranked it out, too!’
Kung Fu, of course, was with David Carradine. I thought
he was an extremely sensitive man. I remember I had a scene with
him at an open grave where I was burying my baby. In real life,
I’d already had one child (my first daughter Elkin) who was
about a year old at the time, and I was pregnant with my second
(my daughter Angelique). It was one of those scenes where I didn’t
even have to work at it because after having a precious child and
carrying another one, I didn’t see how anyone could go on
after having lost a child. We started the scene and I got so hysterical,
David stopped the take. God, how I wished he hadn’t done that.
We eventually did the scene again. He told me later that he was
sorry he had stopped the scene but he thought that I must have lost
a child in real life. I guess it was very painful for him to see
me acting hysterical like that. Jerry Thorpe directed me in that
show and I loved working with him. We had worked together earlier
on a TV-movie called Dial Hotline and he was wonderful.
Jerry always took a lot of time in preparing things and everything
about the show was important to him. He really cared about
your performance. I can remember another scene in Kung Fu...nobody
knew I was pregnant and there was a place in the story where I had
to fall out of the wagon and roll away from the wheels. They wanted
me to roll in a straight line and, well, I couldn’t because
I had a little tummy to protect. So, I kept rolling in a circle
instead and we did it two or three times and finally they just gave
up because I just could not make myself roll in a straight line!
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